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't have to run for re-election? and one of the other key players is mitch mcconnell. what is the dynamic there do you think? >> i think the president, first time i'm talking about the mutual background on capitol hill, the president may be at a point where he has gotten obama care, which is clearly now not going to be repealed, he has created a bigger government in the direction he wants to go in. and he may want to consolidate and having lived through two solid years of not getting anything done, he may decide he doesn't want to spend four years. the odds are very high the republicans will keep the house in 2014. does he really want four years of gridlock or does he want to take a big step, which is a gamble, open the door, sit down and have genuine conversations? and frankly, as he appoints some new cabinet officers, find some republicans that could serve in the cabinet, in a serious way, that would join ray la hood. he has really been sort of isolated as the secretary of transportation. >> we've seen some comments from both sides and yes we want to try to come up with an agreement, we
in congress. his interview with senate leaders harry reid and mitch mcconnell ran just before election day. >> hi, charlie. >> what do you think the possibility of congress compromising with the president stands today? >> i think that it's got to happen. i think substantial compromise, maybe not work out all the problems, maybe put some of them off beyond january 1st, but i think they have to make some real problem between now and the first of the year. >> and on the house side, it's clear that boehner is sending a message to fellow republicans in the house who have got to make extra steps that we didn't before. >> i think that's true. and i think the president has responded by saying that i'm not whetted to the idea of tax rate increases. i'll settle for more revenue if that's what i can get. >> you got senators reid and mcconnell to actually sit together. >> it was like arranging the paris pease talks or the camp david talks. it wasn't easy. >> were they as uncomfortable as they looked sitting next to each other? >> yes. >> and what did you learn from that? >> well, i think that -- what
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